People have this misconception that you only need good brakes if you "drive quickly". Not adapting your cars to LHD and RHD markets is being lazy, nothing more nothing less. Seriously it did not have many redeeming features. Unfortunately the Captur warranty was only 5 years. As my son informs me, Thai drivers have as the basis of their driving technique the motto "Buddha will provide". Over 8,000 questions answered by CarsGuide. I own an 1.0TSi Audi A3 (0-62, 9.6secs) so have no axe to grind. Bluetooth hookups work perfectly, the sat navs alright, the touch screen media panel is fine. Captur drinking lots of fuel and high mpg. You can't start a new thread in this section, but useful threads have been grouped together for quick reference here 14 898K Sep 11, 2017 Read our Articles Simple update probably wont work. But on real congested motorways it's a very different story because the Prius comes into its own in slow traffic when it is on electric. If all you are transporting is a few ledgers and a laptop, most 4x4s are complete overkill. We are well past the point where cars for those purposes can be EVs (I was pleasantly surprised by a Leaf test drive) or PHEVs. However, the fault can often remain unresolved because the previous owner didnt know about the recall or ignored the manufacturers letter. is a waste of time; expect no more than a gallic shrug in response to criticism of French cars, and probably the same from any other nation's constructor(s). I think a mechanic friend told me about the Renault Fuego 30 years ago, non standard spark plugs and god knows what else. The fact that the compressor to drive it would be larger than the engine goes some way to dissuading me. What's that, a young person would ask! The car is plastered in Eco badges. I'd keep the Jazz. > I once asked a group of French ski instructors why they all used "Atomic" skis. It's a car for people with young families, not a car for a tech-, speed- and power-focused reviewer. Diesel is subsidised (here in France). How well it functions as transport is key. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. Compared with with 20 years ago most cars are good. The Register Biting the hand that feeds IT, Copyright. I'm suprised you don't have to get it reprogrammed simply for daring to open the bonnet and top up the wiper fluid. If there was a problem with the car that was logged with Renault while the vehicle was still covered by the factory warranty, then conventional wisdom says its Renaults problem to put right. Pedals which work well on LHD Pugeots end up being an utter bollox on RHD ones and let's not forget the issue of brake pedals being a linkage under the carpet to the left side of the cabin, resulting in a passenger who knows where to put his foot being able to stop the car. Then there's the engine management control unit, I hate them with a passion. A forum community dedicated to Renault Captur SUV owners and enthusiasts. Arguably it's only when they are adult size, when they can plant both feet on the floor while sat in the seat so that the feet go underneath the front seat that leg room becomes less of an issue. I spend a good part of my life on the stretch of the M1 between junctions 2 and 6. Family focused reviews and advice for everything family car related. They are advertising results for a non-showroom car - that's it, false advertizing. That doesn't make it a bad car - it makes it a bad car for you. Our automotive experts are here to help, If you're wondering, we've probably got the answer. If wife is sitting in the back then the front passenger seat can be slid forward for more legroom on that side. Get over it. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. How did they miss them? Different and not necessarily better but decent. Atomic are from Salzburg, Austria, and their skis are (mostly) made in-situ. Takes about as much legroom at the rear as a 6+ foot passenger in the back. I am aware that I can unsubscribe at any time. on my Wifes Megane 1.5 replacing the headlight bulbs entails jacking up the car, removing the front wheel and then reaching through an access panel that can barely accommodate my hand. At which point that magical 70+mpg figure will never be achieved and the DPF will clog regularly. Ordered on 27-Feb-2014, delivered on 16-July-2014 (20 week wait). The NCAP stuff should be a given. To be absolutely fair though, generally their favourite cars were other nationalities e.g. A software upgrade will not affect the oil usage of the car. Not to mention dodgy electrics that cost more to fix than the car is worth after a few years. Does it cost a bomb to run? Some Tomme de Savoir? Says it all really, Renault = poor quality. The cars got no power and should not be used on the motorway after 20,000 miles, My hire car managed 28.8mpg on diesel . But basically even though it has enough grip, and reasonable suspension you would not choose it for twisty road driving, but despite that it is still fun, (and startles boring cars), because I can tell what it is doing so I have confidence that I am not about to slide off into a hedge. Thats whats called a pre-existing fault and even though the car may now be out of warranty, if the problem was there before the warranty ran out, its still a warranty claim. Whilst they were all great fun and the A5 could comfortably return 40mpg they each became impractical for me - kids being born, kids growing larger, hobbies meaning the need to carry more kit, changing jobs etc etc. The single most important safety item on any car is the tyres. It took half an hour to find the bonnet (hood) release, passenger side? RENAULT CAPTUR (08/07/2019 23/07/2019) RECALL: Problem description: Contact between the positive alternator wiring and the alternator casing which could []. RENAULT CAPTUR II (2019) DETACHMENT OF THE GLASS SUNROOF, RENAULT CAPTUR (2019) AN ELECTRICAL SHORT CIRCUIT, RENAULT CAPTUR (2018) THE SEATBELT BUCKLE FIXING BOLT, Fire risk with French vans; detached roof on older Mercedes (week 8/23), BMW 7 Series and I7: Airbag control unit failure, Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 International (CC BY 4.0). Actually, the Captur is a Nissan or Alliance B platform, shared with the Juke, Note, Micra, Clio and Dacia Duster, the Quasqai is a CMF, which shares with the X-Trail. oh, like I want a surprise with my house keys, MS Office 2020, wife? The latest and future car tech from around the world, We're here to help you with any car issues. Just have a quick word with your mechanic before looking at buying and gauge their reaction. Dann vor 14 durch Zufall an der identischen Stelle ber der chromleiste wieder ganz kleine Blschen. But nobody is going to query whether you *really* need a car engine with more power than that on a 52-seat passenger bus. The Rapid Alert System enables quick exchange of information between 31 European countries and the European Commission about dangerous non-food products posing a risk to the health and safety of consumers. A rarity these days. They are a joke. Preferably without tools at all. @HarryB Damn it, you got there before me. Renault Captur Forums A forum community dedicated to Renault Captur SUV owners and enthusiasts. Come join the discussion about performance, purchasing, reviews, modifications inthe entire site I saw a Fiat Panda 4x4 - the original boxy one - just last week parked next to the Oetztal station in Austria. Most just want something that looks nice, will get from A to B, is comfy, hassle free servicing/warranty and has a few gadgets. We've listed all relevant models here. Is it big enough? >manufacturers don't claim the MPG figures. VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. Shortly after I got the Prius I was stuck in traffic on the M6, and in three quarters of an hour made barely a quarter mile of progress. But it could get two kids, baby cot, dog, suitcases and all the other stuff you need as a parent down to the seaside. However, in the UK it made going around smallish roundabouts quite an adventure. This resulted in the entire system being replaced three weeks ago. JavaScript is disabled. There was also a Panda 4x4 back in the 80s. My current car is not a good handler but is not bad, it does communicate. Can't speak for the other chap, but I'd hazard a guess that it was at precisely that point that he became acutely and painfully aware of the aforesaid lack of torque. My wife had one for years and it went up and down hills, over roads covered in mud, snow and slurry, through farmyards and the occasional flood, encouraging the occasional cow and sheep out of the way with total reliability. A forum community dedicated to Renault Captur SUV owners and enthusiasts. It was lucky we thought of that. So disappointed ? "This has voice recognition but, like the engine, the processor is so underpowered it spends an age decoding what you have asked it.". Right now you can choose from the Subaru XV and Renault Captur, which I give The Tick, but soon enough there will also be a Mazda CX-3 that looks like the pick of the litter. Was it the car's fault or yours? I drive hire cars at least twice a month and have been doing so for the past several years. etc. Tahoe blue and ivory 1.5DCI EDC. If it helps, we do get more liquid in our gallons. It was built for Italian hilltop towns, where only a Panda or 500 is narrow enough to get up some of the streets and only a 4x4 can deal with the lethal cobblestones during one of Italy's frequent thunderstorms. Even our version of the Smart got no oil-burner and barely gives 40mpg. Makes you wonder whether the car companies are taking the piss or the pound has really been made that worthless over the last few years. OK, they game the system to get an astoundingly impossible result, but that's the fault of the test not the manufacturers. Why is this not being addressed!! The bonding of the panorama glass roofing may be defective. All three of the cars youve nominated have their strong points, and it will really come down to your personal preferences when it comes to which one is right for you. The more pressing issue is the choice of SUV or hatch. Atomic is, I believe, an Austrian brand sold to a Finnish corporation and now built in Bulgaria? Even that would easily achieve 34mpg on the same journey. I'm not defending Renault, it's only Clio and Megane that make some sense for me, but even in that class I'm more for a Peugeot or Citroen. my Wifes Megane 1.5 replacing the headlight bulbs entails jacking up the car. Gets you on top of every hill in snow and ice, cheap to run, small, and relatively easy to fix. If you are looking for a hound carrier check out Fiat's 500L. Others by the same manufacturer vary from big upright sports car, to slow and ponderous and not sure what lane it wants to be in, via 2CV levels of roll. This depends on how you define speeding. ), then we suggest going to HPI-Check. Jesus saves, but Bobby was a better captain. Renault have a history of making bonkers cars; the Renault 17 Gordini, Renault 5 Turbo, the Espace F1 (who in their right mind puts an F1 engine into an Espace? If you can lock the wheels up, the brakes are good enough. Now, almost 20 years later, 70 to 80% of private cars use diesel and health problems have proven what the consequences of the decision are. It has 'proper' old-school switchable 4 wheel drive and lockable diffs with hi/lo ratios. My 2017 Captur has been at the dealership MULTIPLE times due to radio not switching off.radio sound not coming on, phone hands free not working, satnav guidance not working, audio warnings for backup and parking sensors not working. Underpowered, creaky, and with headlights so bad that driving in the dark in the rain was terrifying. Pootling around is fine if that is all you are ever going to do, but joining fast-moving traffic (as another example) from a short slip road is no picnic. Storage spaces anywhere you could possibly imagine ( and a few you wouldn't). I agree with the consensus, in as much that for the people that car is aimed at it'll probably be just fine. But Renault can move the production to cheaper places and now make unreliable crap at lower cost. You know, the country with the unlimited (and toll-free) roads? The safety cell comprising of ultra strong high tensile steel does away with the rear airbags, removing a device which saps up interior space. It would be the driver side of any European model. My own personal car is a 2003 (Back before the environment mattered) Volvo S40 2.0 litre petrol. When baby starts screaming my wife can comfort her, give her a bottle etc. really? "The good people at VW obviously took some care to make sure that they tried to make their cars as RHD friendly as possible at the design stage. Given all that and the comments he made I'm not at all surprised that the reviewer hated it. In my experience no. Hell is where the cooks are British, the mechanics French, the police German, the lovers Swiss and the whole thing's run by the Italians. Apple do not do that, they would get in trouble car makers? Having been terrorised by driving a 1.6 Verso up a hill trying and failing to overtake a truck on a motorway on a windy day, I can attest to the need for at least some torque, even if it is turbo-lagged. Also, we hold onto our cars for a long time - one car is 17 years old, another is 11 years old. 763. A couple of guys at a place I used to work got Priuses on the company scheme when they came out. Every car on sale today is capable of exceeding the national speed limit. Detailed advice for you - the tradie - on what car is right for you and your job, Looking for an answer? http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrice_Halimi. Looking for tips on how to carry or travel with your family? A lot of cars we looked at had crap legroom in the back and while it's tempting to say that kids won't care, in reality it made a huge difference, at least for us. The power to weight ratio is about the same as a Series III Land Rover, 60BHP/tonne, and the running cost less than half. and as we chose a car with decent rear legroom (a Golf in case anyone gives a shit) she can sit in comfort throughout the journey. It's not just babies, as they get older, before they can sit with their feet on the floor then because of the shortness of their legs the legs stick out at an angle more or less perpendicular to the seat base. If you wish to know more about eventual problems of a specific car (e.g. Strange, I thought Atomic were an Austrian company. around 50-55mpg at a steady 70. Problem Solving. 149: lucasro_2300: 46.110: 5th October 2022 - 13:41 Last post by: Lucian Octavian : Info suport telefon. would buy this, then it will probably be a great sales success as 95% of the world is clueless about cars so they should love it. It just seems odd that none of the reviews I have read mention many of these glaring shortcomings. I also doubt that it would have passed them. Note it is now changing, as Peugeot learnt their lesson, after shafting their customer base for one decade, basically building cars with all parts to be replaced within 30 000 km, at insane costs. The so-called Gordini's since the Renault Sport take-over have been lukewarm hatches at best, as shown by the fact that Renault had to go to Bertone for the mid-engined Renault 5 Turbo. Renault Captur The most common causes that hinders normal starting operation of your Renault Captur are dead key fob battery, dead 12v battery, corrosion Could it be possible theres a difference in speed the gearbox ecu sees that resolves itself once above a certain temperature. Atomic make good "top end" skis for the pro market (or so I have been told); but as of 2004 - when I was looking for my son - there were HUNDREDS of posts on ski forums complaining about low - mid range Atomic skis breaking. Watching the little processing icon is as tiresome as it is dangerous. ^^; The Clio V6 was an interesting car, caught out Audi as well! No, don't be silly. Lucas (prince of darkness) has multiple french spawn. Remember me on this computer? 70 mph you'll get terrible fuel economy. You certainly notice a lack of rear leg room then, you want as much space as possible between your seat back and the back seat in those circumstances. Also reminds me of that old jokeHeaven is where the police are British, the mechanics German, the cooks French, the lovers Italian and the whole thing's run by the Swiss. Car-Recalls.eu accepts no responsibility for the accuracy of the translation. The car will suddenly jump into neutral whilst driving so its As a result, it may become detached from the vehicle, posing . The steerings extremely well-judged not overly fast, nor twirly-light and even on broken roads, it keeps its composure. It is also cheaper to run/maintain than the Nissan Quashqai and Nissan Juke, all three of which have the same chassis. Of course, for the keen driver this means being able to corner well, but it also means being able to maintain control in a tricky situation. Well, you either want a car or you want a Renault. The information may come from producers or distributors who voluntarily organise recalls of the products they found posed a risk to consumers health. All Capturs come with a tyre inflation kit, while a spare wheel was an optional extra. I followed lorries all the way back on the A50 because I could not see to pass them. I suppose that depends on what you mean by 'enjoying the driving'. Hey guys, my girlfriends Captur has recently become undriveable due to a Check Auto Gearbox fault. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. Aircon cannot handle above 25 degrees and it produce hot air instead of cool air. Also consider a factory reset. Ayrton Senna was devout Catholic, and when once asked how he got around corners so well answered: "Jesus is there pointing to the apex for me". The point is that there are cars in this class which can do what this car is intended to do (be a people carrier) but can do it better. Storage losses plus electric motor efficiency will need to be as good as, or better than, transmission losses for it to be better using the engine to charge the batteries than just drive the axle. Plenty of luggage space and a comfortable high seat. Suddenly there was a strange noise, and I realised that the engine had only just come on to charge the battery. In that car the performance isn't too bad.. I've had a series of big Citroens, and the single abiding feature was the ability to drive in comfort all day long and arrive without fatigue after any journey, however long. Remember when French cars were either poky fun superminis or floaty big barges? We should petition the AA / RAC to hassle NCAP into downgrading the safety rating of any car where the light bulbs can't be changed at the side of the road using tools supplied with the car. "I hate overtaking on the left. So this car isn't for you. The bonnet is very thin and can be detn by a heavy hand, the wongs are plastic without reinforcement bars, the doors are thin metal without reinforcement bars, the bumpers are held on by plastic clips, the whole car is joke , its engine is over run and will collapse after 30K miles, the interior is cheap plastic and will break easily, once again held by plastic clips, there are alot of faults with this car and its not recommend as this car will not last , just a good looking car, but safety wise a nightmare. The engine horsepower is irrelevant. They have their uses. A car with stop/start is stopping and starting the engine every time a few yards progress is made, causing a lot of wear. BIK was great and the fuel economy figures looked great. Please, you do not know what you are talking about. I have no idea how they even got the engine in it, probably from underneath. And has anybody else noticed that the Haynes manuals aren't anywhere near as good as they used to be? Captur. Be prepared for expensive spare parts and dealers that often appear to be inept at diagnosing problems. Some problems will only occur after many years of operation, others are related to technical solutions and forced the manufacturer to issue a recall. TBF renault have previous in making "interesting" looking cars. Generally, all cars are capable of doing that. Comfort was good and more space, not less! It will be 900 down, and 239 per month for 3 years, then pay balloon payment of 9000 or hand it back. Diesel Engine 2018 It has a ridiculously low road tax, costs very little to ensure and has extremely good fuel efficiency. Why wont Renault admit there is something majorly wrong with the R-Link system. However it's a weird thing to drive. Cars may get more efficient, bit actually they are getting more powerful. * - not quite so quick at coming down, I note. Read our Articles. The solution was to encroach on the right hand side wheel arch. Seen those. "waah!" Read our Articles. And let me guess; it was the Peugeot 2008s odd dashboard/steering wheel relationship that put you off. Interior wasn't as plush but it had the 0.9l engine and had no real problem touring Scottish Highlands with two six footers weighing over 14 stone with suitcases each, just the odd down gear change up hills! I came to the conclusion many years ago that the French simply hate driving. One week ago my car was back at the dealership due to hands free not working and more radio issues. Latest 2021 Renault Captur Problems. You want the right tyres for the conditions, and you want the best grip available because that is the safest configuration available. Not at all. So motorways should be littered with flattened cars at every on ramp then? You also see far less sports cars such as the Mazda Miata or BMW Z3 or Z4. then you can be sure that it would. Captur drinking lots It should not. Safety isn't just about whether you die or not if someone crashes into you. Specify your car make when starting a new thread, and it will be added to the list of discussion topics. The situation is slowly changing to equal tax/duty so the preference for diesels is diminishing. By the sounds of it, Renault does not (or didn't in the case of that car).". The EU test *allows* the manufacturers to do this. But then, such quirkiness has always been part of the charm of French cars, no? The Panda 4x4 was, and probably still is, excellent for getting around rural Somerset. I also agree with the other comments - no, you don't _need_ a vehicle that fast or powerful but yeah they're great fun. Renault Captur Forums Since 2013 A forum community dedicated to Renault Captur SUV owners and enthusiasts. My Honda Jazz is similar but apparently if you turn the wheels, have thin hands and can work blind you can skip the jack and wheel removal. I know bugger all about cars, I see them as a tool nothing more or nothing less. Indeed, if you do see a sports car on French roads it is far more likely to have a GB plate than a French one. Problem Solving If you have a problem with your Renault, please follow the steps below: Browse our FAQs Step 1. Ok, nobody would have wanted an 80286 if he had known what that was Obviously Jesus didn't save these people's driving skills. Not that I can afford it, or if I could afford it, that I would buy it, but it's a means of transport, like facebook being not the means of communications with your friends. >safety is about keeping a good distance and not speeding. It has a top 5* EuroNCAP safety rating. I couldn't afford anything more that budget 1.1 superminis until I was in my mid-20's ! When you start the car after a few seconds on the dash shows up a message - Battery Charging Fault - with battery indicator ON (RED). No point in trading in. Price is no guide with tyres. All cars have a driver though and cars which give the driver control and confidence are the safest. It had lots of places to plug gadgets in, seatback trays for colouring books, snacks, etc. Mal . But even in the world of Higher Sanity (tm), go to Portugal, drive like a mofo playing chicken with trucks, but at least the rosary hanging off the rear-view mirror gives you assurance. I doubt that it would have braked that hard thiough. 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