If things have reached that point I dont understand why they just didnt source a new engine and be done with it. Same here they fixed piston rings in 2019 and now (March 2022) same problem. My name is Lester Boredom, I have a 2010 Honda Accord V-6. I have not had any misfire codes come up on my car Yet?2009 V6 with 68 k . Ive been told Ill only have to pay $117 for 2 spark plugs that werent covered. The vehicle is eight years and three months old. Believe in having an engine misfire issue. I bought cash a 2012 Honda Pilot EXL 6 cylinder on December 13, 2019. Tell them theyre are required by the manufacture to replace this if they take it out. Theyre not actual complete circles, they are semi-circles, with an opening, a circle w/a small gap in other words. But I think we should start another class action lawsuit against Honda, because Ill be damned if Im going to pay $4000 for a ring job and another $300 for a computer upgrade. Powered by Discourse, best viewed with JavaScript enabled. I agree! What is the symptoms of this misfire? This sounds like because of the oil burning to quickly. I bought this car because I thought it would be dependable and worry free but I have to worry about maintaining oil levels. I called Honda (888-528-7876) and they told me someone will call me next wk (because today is Fri) and my case manager will try and see if they can work something out to help with payment. I think they just reset code. Odds are this was a service writer and the vast majority have little mechanical knowledge or understanding so they wing it so to speak. Flushed my radiator, flush the transmission etc. Paid for spark plugs to be replaced and dont know how long that will last. Dated 1-20-2015. They are offering us a 15% discount for our trouble. now at 118,000 we got the 2nd p0303 code. This is our main vehicle that we drive everywhere. I am worried that I will not have problems until after the 8 year drivetrain warranty is up. My husband checked and spark plugs will be $16-20 each. That makes sense. Thank you for the help! UPDATE: Reimbursements from the Honda Engine Misfire Class Action Settlement were mailed July 14, 2014. My mechanic stated that blue smoke comes out the exhaust as a result of the engine burning oil. They were not forthcoming nor transparent with the litigation and existing issues, I discovered it on my own after much research and confronting them. I didnt have an extended warranty so Honda care wasnt much help but the department manager of my Honda dealership was helpful Im not sure if it was because I called so often (and was a squeaky wheel) but he was very helpful. Took it to the dealer and pointed out that in 2018 they noted that if the code came back they would need to do procedure B which is the piston ring replacement. Are there any other suits at the present or recalls we can get in on? I agree. The deadline for this has already passed by 5 years however i purchased this car from dealership almost 2 years ago. I went about two weeks later to get a new battery and the guy at the local place (not the dealer) said that the oil was overfilled. ARE WE STILL COVERED FOR REPAIR OR AM I TOO LATE TO THE PARTY? Had the misfiring problem, which cost me $481 to replace all sparkplugs at 37,000 mi. I should not have to worry about being stranded in a practically new vehicle. They tell me it will cost $14000 dollars to fix but they will contact Honda and try and get me a break on the price because they didnt notice the problem when it first happened. My car has 36350 now and is out of the factory warranty. Have not had any misfire issues or fail codes with it to date. Same thing is basically happening with my 2012. ENGINE BUILDING IS NOT A SIMPLE BRAKE JOB!! I took it to the Honda dealer and they refuse to do anything about it, I still havent heard back from Honda America about what they wanna do. I am very pissed the dealer can get away with knowing of such a problem and not telling you. Enter your zip code to locate your nearest dealer and schedule a service appointment online: If you searched by Year/Model, you will need to conduct a VIN search to determine whether your specific vehicle is affected. TERRELL MARSHALL DAUDT & WILLIE PLLC, Michael F. Ram This website provides information about safety recalls announced in the past 15 calendar years; older recalls are not included. Recall date. This engine has had some troubles. All I can say is that my car was in the shop for about 5 weeks. A recent new event was in trying to accelerate from a stop light, engine bucked so violently that lost steering control and entire car bounced up and down. My 2012 Honda Accord is having these same issues. There more I have read about the Pilot, the less interested I have become in it. When a class action suits settled like this, someone must notify all customers. Crooks. I dont understand how that is fair if it is a known problem. I have seen several complaints on this issue and my car is one of them now. (it only holds 4.5). My 2014 Honda Odyssey has been experiencing this issue for the last 8 months or so. Is there anything that can be done for 2008 4 cylinder Honda Accord for this claim as I have missed this and did not know this was an issue. I just purchased a 2012 exl v6 w/nav 2 months ago. that means one more year of additional coverage. Anyone have suggestions as to plan of action? If the motor had lower end damage caused by a severe top end melt down, the entire motor was replaced. As part of the settlement, Honda will extend the powertrain warranty on these models for eight years (from time of purchase or lease) with no mileage limitation, and it will also reimburse. Should I file for the reimbursement and extended warranty, or should I sue? It is mandatory to procure user consent prior to running these cookies on your website. Found out that valve cover gaskets were leaking onto my alternator. This can set the dtcs p0301 to p0304 and trigger the mil to start. I took it to the Honda dealer and they replaced the spark plug and now they are telling me that there is a kit that has to be order and put in my car. Are there any recalls on this? Before I contact Honda Regional or Corporate I t. I have a 2014 Odyssey and had a fouled spark plug at 17,000 and another at 30,000. WHAT???? They are replacing my engine block and asked me if I want to pay extra to have the timing belt replaced. Anyone have luck getting one? Cal.). My mechanic told me eventually the engine will need to be replaced! I want to know why only the V6 vehicles are included in this settlement and not the 4 cylinders? I love my car its everything I ever wanted and now it needs another 5,000 for repairs. If you get a check, let us know! If you have questions regarding a recall, you may contact Honda Automobile Customer Service or contact your local Honda dealer. Honda are you listening? I might ask how much are they charging you for all of this? The only way I could see them arguing it's not covered is if it was caused by damage/neglect/accident, but this doesn't sound like the previous owner neglected the van. Class Members do not need to take any action to obtain the warranty extension, which will cover repairs for the affected vehicles within eight years of the original purchase or lease date of the vehicle, with no mileage limitation. I started out with 1 quart every 2500 miles right out of the car lot, 2 years later its a quart or more every 1000 miles. I purchased a 2009 HONDA Odyssey because of the so-called reliability of your brand. v. Honda Motor Co. Inc.) alleging that Honda manufactured more than 1.5 million defective vehicles that excessively burned oil. American Honda is extending the powertrain warranty to cover repairs related to engine misfire (that triggers DTCs P0301 through P0304) to 8 years with unlimited mileage from the original date of purchase and has settled a class action based on this remedial measure. The vehicle burns a quart of oil every 1000 miles. I will be calling to find out how I can get my car covered for another 4 years. We brought it to the dealership, they diagnosed the condition as cylinder one misfire, agreed that we were candidates for the extended warranty repair which included at first software update and then we were advised to drive the vehicle to determine if there was further failure of the piston rings. Once repaired, how likely is it to happen again? Now that it is, my dealership was given permission from HONDA to take the car in and fix it next week. at 113,000 the first p0303 code comes in, offered the full piston ring redo, or plugs tubes and valves, we did the later do to cost. About 2 weeks ago the little evil check engine light came back on. I wll buy U.S. next car for sure. The junk yard engine would cost $4000 not including labor. I have a 2012 Honda Accord V6 it has 38000 miles on it and I have had it in the shop twice for cylinder #2 misfiring. I guess shes not concerned with us getting any longevity since its not looking like we will be repeat Honda owners. If you purchased a 2008-2012 Honda Accord, 2008-2013 Honda Odyssey, 2009-2013 Honda Pilot, 2010-2011 Honda Accord Crosstour or 2012 Honda Crosstour equipped with a 6-cylinder engine with Variable Cylinder Management (VCM-2), you could be eligible to receive compensation for repairs or a warranty extension. I had a hesitation problem with my 2011 Accord, V-6, but it turned out to be a result of my driving habit of using Then a month ago I took it in for the same problem and also my warranty was up! It was down a quart. change the spark plugs with some NGK iridium or ruthenuim plugs, pay someone or do it yourself. It is all covered by Honda because this was a problem with several models. I have been mulling over my options for two weeks now. They (Boch Honda Norwood Ma) just told me i have massive interior engine damage. Lookup honda Torque converter defect, issues. Cylinder misfire. I received your claim for repairs for my 2009 Honda Odyssey Touring vehicle, however, i have not had any previous claims yet. Since that time (Aug '15) I havent had any problems. Lawsuit ? Your service adviser should be able to to update you on the status of your vehicle. Everything I read says that misfires cause the temperature to rise in the converters and eventually possibility is that it burns them up. I checkd the coil packs by switching, all good and also replaced all spark plugs and flushed out the fuel rail. So the question I have is, what should I do for the Honda Pilot? my 2004 Honda Odyssey would do his on its own, up 20mph 60mph even continued while I had the brakes to the floor !! So think of a big mushroom being pulled to and fro in a drinking glass. I now have a bill for >$800 for their replacement as the bushings rubber cracked and the oil leaked out. UPDATE: A federal judge granted final approval to the Honda engine misfire class action settlement at the Final Fairness Hearing. I called the Honda dealership closest to me about it after I had read about this recall/lawsuit and after looking up my VIN, said that I dont have a recall for it so theres nothing they can do. After hours of research I stumbled upon the class action lawsuit but was frustrated to learn it was now closed and doesnt include the model year of my vehicle. This affects 2008-2011 Hondas and includes an extended 8 year or 125,000 warranty to cover the costs of replacement. Or is this only for people that have had problems ? If Honda USA is indeed covering the repair, it is reasonable to expect them to intercede on your behalf when the dealer is taking so long. However I will never invest in a Honda vehicle again! Honda dealerships are instructed to perform related repairs for free under the new 8 years and unlimited mileage warranty. If the person at the dealership who told you that the valve, or valves, were damaged due to oil consumption and plug fouling then they are dead wrong. I started burning 2 quarts of oil between oil changes and took it to the dealer. The 2009-2013 Honda Pilot is the subject of two TSBs for the piston rings which may fail at roughly 72,000 miles or compromise spark plugs. We are having the same issue with our 2016 Odyssey. Ive always used mobile one synthetic oil for oil changes. Original owner had same problem since 2014. Im also wondering if my engine has likely suffered any damage as a result of the issue. Dealer nor Honda will provide a rental. The entire top end of the motor was replaced. I dont put a lot of creedence into most automotive lawsuits as there is usually no real justification for it other than an offended customer and lawyers who want to sue over everything. Waiting until engine blows up and they have to replace under extended warranty I purchased when I bought this car in fall of 2014. Known issue 2009-2013 Honda Pilot that resulted in class action lawsuit. Honda offering to extend warranty on the piston ring update repair for I4s to 8 years / 125,000 Miles. There is nothing wrong with your car, just replace the plugs ( I am assuming you are having a misfire which is why it's at the dealer) and disable the VCM system and finally give it the Italian tune up. Honda has denied the allegations in the class action lawsuit. And, the oil after a couple 100 miles is black and smells burnt. I still have all the same issues. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. How do I go about contacting them? We were told that the warranty program had already expired. BERK LAW PLLC, Beth E. Terrell You should already be using Mobil1 0W-20 'Hi-Mileage' oil - if not, drive it a week or so, then change. The TSB is the result of A-A-Classction lawsuit. I am so irritated with them. Im wondering if anyone else has had issues with cylinders 5 and 6? I will never buy another one of your products!!! SEVEN hours after dropping off my car I get a call saying that it is ready. It has about 88,000 miles on it. The manual says to adjust valves at 100k. The dealership wont budge on the $3000 repair costs, ridiculous. I am on the hook for paying for the problem. I am highly upset, in that, I purchased the car new in June 2013 and records online show that Honda new about this issue BEFORE I purchased the car. honda pilot cylinder 2 misfire. I also have a 08 Honda Accord. Beyond that, I wouldnt push them too much. It had also been regularly serviced. The permanent fix is to disable VCM with a device called VCMuzzler and do an Italian tune up with fuel system cleaner in the tank, that will clean out the piston rings so it won't burn oil or foul the plugs anymore. Only thing I can do is drive it and trade/ sell it after the warranty. The VCM recall fix is temporary. EVERY SINGLE CAR OWNER OF THESE VEHICLES SHOULD BE COVERED UNDER THE SETTLEMENT!! And misleading, crooked company!! After reading all your similar problems I think they know what the problem is but dont want to admit it. My car has been in the dealer repair shop since July 16 (3 weeks today). I reached out to Honda corporate and they are paying for some of the cost to repair it. We just now are having engine misfires to the tune of $3300. This is definitely later than the suit deadline. Honda replaced the spark plugs, for free, 3 times. Service tech said oh, yeah that is an issue with that model. Nearly a quart a already and havent even done the first oil change yet. Google and you can read full service bulletin. My car runs so bad, shakes like crazy, doesnt accelerate, burns oil like no other, and I have to leave the AC off (even though the weather is in the high 90s right now) for my car to run decent enough to take it anywhere. The dealer updated the PCM software and replaced spark plugs. I have a question around the whole Misfire Settlement agreement that Im hoping someone can help me with. Ive invested at least 9 dealership visits and several hours of work missed, my car is still not properly repaired to avoid this misfiring issue. Mike. I have a 2016 with the same problem. Now, it is just the engine light. I'm worried it's due to damaged rings? I am having to constantly put oil in it. I have the same problem on my 2012 Honda Odyssey. I wish there was something I could do. Auto machine shops usually stay busy so having a cylinder head tied up for several weeks or more is not uncommon depending upon the workload. Question is how long this Misfiring issue will last and will it be covered next time. Any suggestions? I know Im supposed to check the oil levels at gas fill ups but Id have to add oil at every gasoline fill up at this rate. Almost immediately, it misfired again. Now, left ball joint is bad. UPDATE: Reimbursements from the Honda Engine Misfire Class Action Settlement were mailed July 14, 2014. In our commitment to maintain outstanding safety, reliability, performance and environmental standards, Honda occasionally asks our owners to bring their Honda to a dealer to perform recalls and/or product updates. 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