One thing I didnt consider was the price of avocados during the months where I would likely have to buy. Someday you will be the resource of knowledge on avocado growing in Nice. It just does not seem logical) But later I read, that often Fuerte is not a reliable cropper. The taste of a Sharwil avocado is excellent, on par with any avocado that Ive tasted. Ps. A single fruit can weigh over a pound and the tree grows to reach just 8 feet indoors, or 15 to 20 feet when planted outside. Sounds like a good plan. See my post, Can you grow an avocado in a small yard?. We are Sunset zone 17. Hi Greg, The skin is green when ripe, is bumpy and of medium thickness, and peels easily. It sounds like an ideal type B. Incidentally, similar spacings can often be used in a yard as on a farm. It makes me feel geriatric. https://gregalder.com/yardposts/protecting-avocado-trees-from-heat/. I am curious to see if it will fruit consistently. I can give it time but wonder if starting new isnt a better option. Vasco, thank you for your kind message. 2. Because Ive become more and more concerned about getting production from my trees since I cant afford the water otherwise, Ive been moving toward A types in general since they produce better in my yard. Better now than never. One last thing. Ill try some beneficial predator mites next. The tree looks healthy and fruitful: auspicious for your plantings. 3 Advertisements West Indian (Persea americana Mill. But I think its going to be a more common variety for Southern California in the future. (rpondu) Blogue Fruits et Lgumes. I just put down the mulch and leave it be. The color of a Sharwil avocado stays green when ripe, and has a cold grayish-blue tinge to it. That tree eventually did die. Taste Ive read is great. Theyre similar to Reed in both taste and appearance (round and green skin), except that the Nabals I know have a thicker, shell-like skin. For anyone counting net carbs, avocados are simply amazing. 'Sharwil' is a Mexican and Guatemalan cross and represents more than 57% of the commercial acreage in Hawaii. I dont have extensive room for so many trees through which is why I want to graft (actually its that my wife will kill me if I try to plant more than 3 avocado trees). Should we take all the trees out and start new? See: https://gregalder.com/yardposts/how-to-plant-and-stake-an-avocado-tree/. I use foam or bubble insulation to wrap the trunks of my baby trees their first winter. Are they light producing or is that they are slow growing therefore they are light producing because they are small? Just a couple days ago, I visited the largest organic avocado orchard in California, and they recently planted a lot of Sharwil trees. My 15-foot Hass averages roughly 100 avocados per year, and Ive found that we need more than that during the Hass season. Elizabeth, 27. I have two Hass and a sir prize, and my next door neighbor has a Big Florida type avocado and a friend down the street has a seed grown reed type with round fruit. Would you say these are still your top 3? In my yard, Reeds start to taste good as early as May, and can go through September. Its significantly bigger than Hass, as seen in the photo above, andReed also stays green when its ripe. Would you recommend Carmen Hass and GEM? For your milder location though, this might not be important. From what I hear it is a great tasting avocado but they dont seem to produce much up here. And if you dont care about getting lots of fruit, then Holiday is a fine choice; it also naturally grows more like a shrub, which might look appropriate in a pot. This weekend, Im going to be using your tips for planting an avocado so I can put mine in the ground. This is a very informative blog. I dont know of any other commercial avocado grove with many Sharwils, unfortunately. That was very encouraging. This is how I got to this blog, but I never found any mention of high density. We have a large greenhouse and I was hoping you could suggest some avocados that might be easier to grow and fruit here? I would eliminate the Wertz on the basis of the others tasting better. Please find attached the pictures of the avocado tree in Nice (the variety is unknown, picture taken on the 1st of November). Medium sized, pear-shaped fruit has an excellent creamy, flesh. Truly, you can prune almost any variety to almost any shape, but its easier if you go with the natural tendency of the variety. . If youre planting trees at six feet apart, you might find it necessary to remove every other tree after a handful of years. 'Wilma' cold-hardy avocado fruits weigh up to six ounces (182g). But just a few years later, in 1992, fruit flies ruined everything. We will sell trees at various ages and transport to other islands. The best months for planting are typically March through June, depending on where you live. Im in a hot area of Bay Area northern Ca. The farmer found GEM to do very well on Toro Canyon and Duke 7 rootstock in his soil, however. We have a central coast house with three citrus trees and was looking for one Avocado tree, I was leaning towards the Sir Prize, with your discussion should I lean towards the Haas as a single tree, or is either a good choice. Eli also sells his avocados at farmers markets, and the one closest to you is in Corona Del Mar. So, right now, at the churchs garden we already have a beautiful avocado collection Hass, Lamb, Bacon and Reed. I live in Santa Barbara, CA just less than a mile from the ocean. The flesh is very oily, rich and creamy tasting. My second choice would be Hass and Fuerte. So I tried a Reed for the first time today from the farmers market. BACK IN STOCK APRIL 2023. Thanks for the feedback on Holiday. We have tried to plant Hass avocados about four times and despite every best effort with location change in the yard and switching up irrigation they all eventually turned black on the trunk, browned leaf tips, and given up, to our dismay. Just so you and other readers know, my yard is in inland San Diego County near the town of Ramona. The fruit is tasty, but not that tasty. I have records of the bloom seasons of all of my trees, and Id be happy to share about specific varieties. Hass beats almost everyone at the length of its harvest season. I have to plant them in a line of north to south. We had a hass 4 years back that sun burned to death. I am going to try to graft new ones and see if the results are the same as well as see if it fruits every year or every two. Thanks really enjoy your posts! Ive been told that landfills in other counties offer similar products. Then I would eliminate the Holiday on the basis of its lower production in comparison to Pinkerton and GEM. Ive seen high-density plantings get crowded after the first few years and then the yield is reduced and the grove is impenetrable jungle. I do know MacArthur avocados. The Mexicola and Lamb both look like they might be based on the pictures I have seen. All avocado varieties need roughly the same care. Anne. Thanks for the input, and its really along the lines that I was looking down. Pinkerton seems to never drop fruit in the heat. Hass avocados make up 95% of all the avocados eaten in the USA but you may be surprised to learn that the humble Hass is one of the newest varieties of avocado and didn't even exist before the 1920's. I know thats not down the street, but . And I hope this post helps you choose your own best kind. Greg Another which 2 trees are best question. Fuerte. The fruit has black, medium-thick skin and an oval shape. I also like Maddock. This makes me very happy? These are the first trees I have had success with and just dont want to mess things up. Do you have any experience or exposure to Nabal Avos? Started producing at 3? Ive never tasted one but wondering how it compares to Reed and Hass in your opinion. Hass has done very well on Duke 7 for decades in many locations. Gwen isnt the toughest of my avocado trees, for sure. Greg, this is a great thread, thank you. Nevertheless, even compared to other trees the same size, Holiday is usually later and lighter in production. We may have an improved Fuerte. Two main varieties on offer. The challenge is that many of them have similar harvest seasons, which are spring into summer: Hass, Sharwil, GEM, Gwen. Thank you so much for your response. A lesser-known variety but one still popping up in supermarkets is the mighty Florida avocado, also sometimes called the Dominican avocado. You might try leaching the chlorine out of the soil by giving it a long watering with regular water. Seeing as you can go buy a Hass avocado in your local supermarket any day of the year, maybe you might consider a different variety that you can't otherwise find. SOLD OUT FOR 2022. Should I plant a Reed to complement my other trees? Hardiness: Average to 28F. Until then, let me say that every one of the varieties you mentioned has great tasting fruit (except that Ive never eaten Green Gold so cant comment with experience on that one). I even made a chart a few years ago showing the harvest seasons of some varieties (in my post When to pick avocados), but Im not perfectly comfortable with it because every year is different and every yard is different, even within a small geographical area like a single county let alone all of Southern California. Both have excellent tasting fruit. See my short video profile of Pinkerton avocado fruit here.). Its usually easier to grow an avocado tree in the ground than to keep one healthy in a container. Some of them are relegated to a lower tier because of flavor (Zutano); some arent productive enough (Holiday). Even in warm-winter locations it doesnt always bear as well as some A types. Hi Greg, . Hi Greg, In my garden, I have only one Reed. The information I am finding on Reed says that it is best grown in Zones 10-11. Our Avocado Varieties. Hi, i was gifted a Nabal Avocado tree for xmas and before i plant it in the ground, i was wondering what its growing habits are? I counted 51 fruits in this picture. But a couple are right on the cusp of that top tier. Your email address will not be published. Cliff. Yes, before asking you about the rootstocks, I checked if there was anything about avocado rootstocks on The Yard Posts! Sorry that I bad-mouthed Zutano in the comment above. However, they often dont have any in stock, which means your only choice is to put in a request and wait for delivery as you noted. The texture and taste were very very good, top notch, with only a couple of very minor fibers. Im guessing youre referring to Van Nuys as being slightly cooler in winter (compared to spots closer to the beach). Both trees have been prolific. I have been in contact with them for Carmen, GEM and Ettinger trees and late January was told to ask later in April for the trees. This way youre likely to rarely get bad damage. Thank you for all the great information! But at least it was grown in Southern California. On that note, I should mention a post that I wrote a couple summers ago after my yard reached 109.8 degrees one day. Two, get a combination of hardier varieties and others like Hass, Reed, GEM, etc. Avocado - GEM - 3 - 4 feet tall Exotic Fruit Trees Limit 5 per customer. The trees are doing spectacularly, especially the Nabal with 18 almost baseball size avocados on it. At best, carrying a super heavy crop load usually means that the following years crop will be very light. Thought you and others might be interested in knowing that Gwen avocados are currently available at Elis Farmstand in Fallbrook. Youre right Walter. Im in Van Nuys, which is Sunset Zone 18. With a single Hass tree you can have good avocados at hand for at least seven months out of every year. Thank you!! Florida's avocado trees grow to be between 30 and 65 feet tall. impossible (or almost impossible) to ship American varieties from the US to Europe. Gwens downfall as a commercial variety was primarily its green skin; it doesnt turn black as it ripens like Hass. H.B. So much amazing information here youre helping me gain confidence in my dream of planting an avocado tree in our backyard. Yet the tree is smaller in that it is an upright instead of a large spreading type, the fruit are small but turn black when ripe (about the size of tiny hass found 8 in a bag), and the tree is a heavy producer (at least it was this time). Trees are medium growing and yield nearly year round. They will always stay true to who they are (unlike Hass, who with one whiff of heat or pressure shapeshift quicker than a Harry Potter character). Our greenhouse has 14ft ceilings. Sharwil is not as 'nutty' as Hass, but has a mild but rich fullness of flavor and lingering creamy after-taste that transcends Hass. Lots of great Hass are grown in nearby Morro Bay. Id like to plant an avacado tree in my front court yard. Lambs are also highly productive, taste very good, and mature in summer into fall. A Florida avocado has the same kind of fats but in much lower quantities. A homegrown Hass, picked at prime time around May or June in southern Southern California, but some months later up near Point Conception and ripened at room temperature on a kitchen counter (not refrigerated and gassed with ethylene during its mishandling on the way to a retail outlet) is a knockout. In Point Loma/Sunset Cliffs, just make sure the trees arent stressed from lack of water and you should prevent whatever fruitlet drop is possible to prevent. Nice work! Oh yes, I found an avocado tree in Nice!!!!!!!!!!! Carmen and GEM are definitely both worth adding to your collection in terms of being great tasting, high yielding, and having good hang time. This is one of the reasons that Hass went from obscurity in 1945 to over 95 percent of the commercial avocado production in California today. But keep this in mind: each of these three varieties is capable of producing a hundred avocados on a tree thats less than 15-feet tall even if its not close to an opposite-type tree. There are lots of other very good avocado varieties. I know you know the pruning game so Im sure youll have no problem keeping the trees at 12 feet. Really it's the type A Guatemalans that far and away perform best in the cool temps. I am from Nice (France, Europe), and I would like to plant two avocado trees in my garden. I listen for the sound of a chainsaw. Sharwil, Stewart, Sir Prize, Hass and Holiday dont seem to do as well here in comparison. Any suggestions would be much appreciated please! You might try spraying the undersides of foliage every week or so for a period in spring and/or summer to see if it makes a difference. In the meantime, well work on protecting it from sunburn when it hits 100 F or 110 F in a few months! https://ibb.co/BNxp1W8 . We recommend storing your avocado at room temperature in the fruit bowl until it reaches the preferred ripeness for eating. I have been watching this tree for years since I work in the area, had some fruit once they turned black and they taste exactly like Fuerte! Still, what most people prefer to do is plant multiple trees close together, even in one hole. This high quality, black-skinned avocado is up to 25% larger than its parent, Mexicola. Im glad you have shared how things are doing at your place so others nearby are clued in. What do you think about avocado rootstocks? by Greg Alder | Mar 23, 2018 | Avocados | 167 comments. "The trees are also more compact, which means growers have less costs for harvesting and tree maintenance." Should you buy a big or small avocado tree? Plus, Ive seen in my own yard that Fuerte pollenizes Pinkerton very well: https://youtu.be/xGNTxYU-X50, Greg love your article and all the discussions. Big and green are the two fatal qualities that prevent Reeds acceptance as a commercial variety in todays small and black Hass world. Nevertheless, a friend of mine has got a very young avocado tree in her garden (grown from a seed, probably a Hass seed), which gave it first fruits this summer. Ive found a Gem and a Carmen Hass semi-locally and am torn about which to plant! To my delight, they confirmed that they shipped to France. Pretty much. Both ornamental and fruit trees are being affected, Its only about 8 miles to the Tijuana River valley from here which Im told is having a serious problem with shot hole borers, hope Im wrong but that may be the problem. Sharwil Avocado B flower type. FWIW I think Fuerte, Reed and obviously a great Hass are among my top 5 so your advice is excellent. As for heat-tolerant avocado varieties, I wrote a post about that some years back and Ill be updating it soon: https://gregalder.com/yardposts/heat-tolerance-of-avocado-varieties/. Anyway, Id focus on A types, and with the 14-foot ceiling you could prune any variety to keep its size in check or go with a naturally smaller variety such as Gwen, GEM, Pinkerton, Lamb, or even Reed (these will all ultimately get taller than 14 feet, but not as soon). Horizontally? Following your advice, I have planted 5 Hass trees, 1 Fuerte, 1 Reed, and 1 Sir prize. What is the next most oil-based Avo after the Hass? Years ago when I started planting it was hard to find out what to grow up here. Is the white wash enough? They will never let you down or change their form. That being said, I have eaten excellent Sharwils from the De Luz area as late as October. It appears similar to Fuerte. Also, what are your thoughts on a multi-variety grafted tree? June of this year I topped them at 8 feet, The Gem is still at 8 feet but the other two want to grow to the moon. If you only eat half, that's 1.3 grams of net carbs. It doesnt matter which variety you plant in clayey soil. I read a few older stories about it that led me to believe its a great fit for a small yard in the Downtown LA area and that its fruit are amongst the best tasting even better than Hass. I have seen, in person, happy Hass and/or Reed trees in other parts of Southern California considered Sunset Zone 18, such as Rancho Cucamonga, Corona, and Redlands. 2. Yulia. You might have to wait a bit before one is available. But yes, Lamb, Reed, and Fuerte all have higher salt tolerance than Hass. I wish you luck with the planting this is a perfect time for it. Id probably still go Fuerte. The difference is that the A type trees have flowers that will open as females in the morning one day, close in the afternoon, then open the next afternoon as male and then close in the evening. I will be planting your suggested trio this spring. With GEM as tree 1, you would find that Sir Prizes harvest season is earlier whereas Reed and Lamb are later. Persea americana x 'Mexicola Grande'. Hi Robert, You saved my sanity! The variety has been grown in Southern California for about a hundred years, having been brought up from Guatemala by Wilson Popenoe. Sorry to hear about the decline of such a wonderful tree. fireduck. The fruit is set in huge numbers uniformly throughout the tree. Super Hass Avocados are a dwarf variety, which make them great container plants. Im about to head to subtropica nursery to buy three trees. We have acreage The Land located above Hilo, Hawaii, at 800 foot elevation. I have been trying to research this for a while now trying to figure out the best combination for me. This is according to these articles of course. Spacing six feet apart with ten feet between rows is very workable, depending on a few factors. If I had the space for only one avocado tree, I would plant a Hass. You can go two ways about it. If you want to know how to kill an avocado tree, ask me Ive done it all. I will tell you later how my adventure is going! This is such a good topic that it deserves the space of a full post. Youve got a great combination of avocado trees there. The only tough part is that you must whitewash exposed bark. Forgive my rambling. Bacon, This autumn, I decided to order more avocado trees from Brokaw. It may have something to do with the Gwen tree being a bit wimpy during extreme weather compared to some other avocado varieties. One, get only the hardier varieties, such as Fuerte, Bacon, Zutano, or Puebla. I would stick to A types though. This time around I have white washed all my young trees and have placed a shade cover around my Fuerte, which apparently doesnt do well Im the heat. Thanks again! Lamb Hass Lamb Hass is a California selection bearing spring and summer fruit. I wish I could visit that old Puebla. Dig a hole twice as large as the tree's root system, carefully plant the tree and cover the roots. What an adventure youve gotten yourself into. Ive got a small Reed already picked out, since I really love the flavor. I live in Ramona in the Acres where we really get both extremes temperature-wise since its a pretty low/flat area not shielded by any hills mountains. GEM with a friend is a great idea. 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