If its a can that takes a threaded muzzle device or a QD mount then who installed the device and did you time it for minimal POI shift? 7 PRC would be a nice step down in recoil from a 300 win mag as long as you choose a lighter bullet. Sample Trajectory showing the bullet path crossing the line of sight.Because gravity causes the bullet to drop, the longer a bullet takes to reach its target, the more time gravity will have to pull it towards the earth. Not like they are going to get away stuffing a 7mm PRC into a short action any less than the 7mm STW even when the former has a shorter COAL. Mag. ( I know you prefer shorter barrels especially for hunting). Suggested 7mm Rem. 2023 Backfire LLC, a limited liability company headquartered in Utah, USA. A rule of thumb I use is if an animal is walking, shots need to be twice as close. Oh, it would be close, but it would still fall under the precise point of aim by about an inch. Ive got it sending the 162 grain ELD-X 3200 FPS. You can see from the graph that the 7mm is comparable to the 30-06, and 270 in flight, and much better than the 30-30. The parent case is the .308 Winchester with a narrowed neck that fits a .284 inch bullet on a .315 inch neck with a rimless, bottleneck case. Let's look at the difference in drop and deflection for our reference at 1000 yards from a 200 yard zero for two cases: 1000 ft 50 degrees ,and 8000 ft and 20 degrees. Since this new cartridge has been announced, Ive talked with my contacts at many of the major rifle manufacturers and have been surprised by how many of them are extremely frustrated with working on PRC chamberings in their rifles. My $0.02, 6.5 creedmore, 7.82 warbird, 338 luapa, 7mm ultra mag comes to mind. Let's compare the amount of wind deflection for two different bullet's launched at 3000 fps MV. Thank you. But, everything has to be perfect for it to work. lb Muzzle Velocity ft/sec. Thats one flat shooting load considering we sighted-in the bullet to impact only 2.37 inches high at 100 yards. Maybe yall will find some magic power that will do likewise for the 7mm prc. Rifle Type Both the 7mm Rem Mag and the .300 Win Mag are only chambered in standard/long action rifles. The Bigger Question is, whats YOUR maximum? Shots at game at 800 yards are extreme and should only be attempted by shooters that are using the right equipment, and have the coaching and preparation to positively make the shot. Im getting impressive velocities despite the short length, and the accuracy has been insanely goodone of the most accurate rifles Ive ever shot. Count me in as a 7mm STW shooter. Be intentional and smart with each shot. Ive been playing around with Berger 190g Long Range Hybrid Targets. Using this as a reference, let's examine several other factors that can effect our shot placement. Increasing the BC to 0.700 the drift is only half, at 20 inches! Heres what he reported using a 175gr ELDX, Federal 215M primers, and Reloder26 powder. The cool thing is that Preferred Barrel Blanks does prefits for just about any action you already have. Great stuff. Again, weight of the bullet plays a large role in bucking wind. Eh, someday. Let me know! However, its pointless to attempt such shots if you dont optimize 7mm Rem Mags point blank range during sighting-in. All three are excellent choices for long-range hunting ammo.. Because of the nature of the bullet's shape and its performance through the air, changing Air Densities can have a large effect at long range. There are quite a few variables that all work to decrease the true potential of a rifle. I really want to compare recoils of suppressed rifles. Not all bullets are Max-Range bullets. I plan to run it suppressed after barrel break-in. I apologize for the misunderstanding. Be cautious when rebarreling a rifle into any of the PRC cartridges. The PowerRank is an estimation of the cartridge power. This is for academic purposes only. I dont like playing games of how far can I go and minimum bullet energy. A faster twist in the rifling of a barrel allows the bullet to spin more quickly to stabilize longer (and consequently heavier) bullets. Ive left comments but could use some advice. If you do not have a Shooting Chronograph, I strongly suggest you purchase one. I do lose stability out past 1000 yards but still great performance. This information is provided to the shooter as well. A good laser rangefinder is a tool, and if it isn't used properly it won't yield good results. But, if you arent able to get things perfectly lined up for just long enough to pull the trigger and follow through a smidge, let it go. Im looking for a new elk rifle and am very excited about this new caliber. Nice build Jim. (About 19.5 inches). This is using CCI Large Magnum primers, and shooting out of a 24 test barrel. If you want to knock it down.. use a 7mm. As long as its a standard long-action, you should be just fine putting a 7 PRC barrel on it. Being derived from the H&H case, there is plenty of case capacity, and the 7mm Remington Magnum will send the heavy 175-grain bullets at a muzzle velocity of 2800 fps or so, depending on the manufacturer, and the speed only increases as the bullets get lighter. The 7mm Precision Rifle Cartridge is a long-action centerfire rifle cartridge designed to shoot 180 grain bullets at 2,950 fps. Because the 7mm shoots the lighter bullets at higher velocities, it is better suited to the law enforcment arena than the .300. The 7mm Rem Mag is another specialized cartridge that deserves comprehensive ballistics analysis using Shoot! Do not rely on my anecdotal testing for your rifle. These guys have 7mm rem mags taking elk at 900+ yards. Thanks, God Bless. Input your hunting conditions to see the drop, drift, bullet trajectory, velocity, and energy in easy-to-read ballistics charts and graphs. Great job on all the information on the 7mm PRC. Eliminating the effect of wind by using high BC's and proper compensation techniques is the only solution. Someone forgot the grand daddy of 7mm mags! Seldom is the practical max the same as the true max distance. Personally, I like all three of those cartridges for different reasons, but I think this new cartridge will become so popular over the next few years that those cartridges will quickly fade in the rearview mirror. As we examine the drop and deflection of a bullet it becomes apparent that BC and velocity are very important parameters for shooting at long range. I was about to embark on a 7 Saum build in a long action to use the longer, higher BC bullets. After that velocity diminishes very quickly. Please use a 300 yard zero and give me 100 yard clicks out to 1000 yards. How does the 7mm Rem Mag achieve such ballistics? You have to find the right balance of weight and aerodynamics. Im guessing that the parent cartridge for this is the .416, but thats really a guess. I highly recommend Preferred Barrel Blanks for this job. Max range 600yard, would like to shoot the 180s. Now im gonna say this , without reloader 26 powder I would have no need to own this 6.5prc, this powder is like magic. how will the 7mm prc compare to the 7mm sherman short or 7mm sherman max. I was looking at having Preferred Barrels make me a 7mm PRC similar to what you have shown. This is great. I have an m70 classic with a 26 Brux barrel. Can someone help me with a MOA ( 4 clicks for 1" ) drop chart for my 7MM Rem Mag? Your email address will not be published. Your email address will not be published. Personally, my load for the 175 ELD-X in the 7mm PRC will be 64gr of H4831SC, which should yield around 2,925fps. Select Your Gun Type. I currently shoot a 300 Win Mag. While I like and support new cartridges, does the PRC provide anything new? This setup is for long range target shooting. Ideal extreme powders? Privacy How to Sight in a Scope - Step by Step Guide. Barrel Break In: All barrels will increase in speed. The 7mm Weatherby! While we have went to great lengths to make sure that it's as accurate as possible this rendering should not be used to generate specs for casings. bearcat2; Nov . We've measured the reference system to be on the order of eight inches at 1000 yards, but because of its exponential dependency on time of flight the 1500 yard drift could be as much as five feet! The Hornady 7 PRC is a new long-range hunting and competition cartridge that slides neatly into the gap that exists between the 6.5 PRC and 300 PRC. What we have here is failure- to communicate. You may be able to use a heavier bullet and achieve more energy or a longer range with more velocity.if(typeof ez_ad_units != 'undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[300,250],'backfire_tv-box-4','ezslot_6',175,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-backfire_tv-box-4-0'); Since were talking about max distances, Id like to clarify something here. Jim, nice summary on the 7PRC. People may argue that the 7mm STW has come and gone, but with the PRS-ELR hybrid competitions becoming more common, even range directors like Scott Satterlee admit the 7mms are the ones to be on the lookout for, going forward. If your max is 400-yards and the deer is moving, perhaps stick to 200-yards. Your email address will not be published. Why is it a foregone conclusion that Shooters will gravitate toward heavy-for-caliber high-BC bullets in the 7mm PRC? So far, my favorite powder for reloading the 7 PRC is H4831SC using standard large rifle primers. Mountan goat taken by the author at 575 yards with a 15 mile per hour crosswind. Im sure we both understand youre trying to reach hunters and shooters of all levels, and you dont want to overload everyone with too much data. Question, should I consider a 22 for the added benefit of when non suppressed or will the 20 (non suppressed) handle my needs just fine. If its foggy or rainy out, the clarity of your sight picture will limit how well you can shoot. The Barnes bullet loses velocity at twice the rate of the VLD! At 300 m my Blaser R8 shoots on 2 cm with these bullets. .308 Winchester All the scopes I like seam to be out of my price affordability. Ballistic Programing/Custom Turrets:If you are buying a ballistic range finder or kestrel we will program the ballistic computer for you so everything is ready upon arrival. This system maximizes the distance in which no "hold over" is necessary. 1998 - Present. I contacted you about my 6.5 Fierce CT Rival that was having extraction and barrel pressure problems like you were. Can you tell me which suppressor you are using? (They are the only company that has any 7PRC brass that I know of. I personally worked up my load using the 150gr Hornady CX bullet, but now Hornady has announced a new 160gr CX bullet with a much higher BC and only one band instead of the two bands on the 150gr CX. on steroids. I ABSOLUTELY would use 7mm PRC on elk. I chose to put a Proof barrel on and had an M16 extractor installed and am very happy with the results. Use a small level, and look closely at new rangefinders that incorporate incline shooting compensation. Unlike a load data book from one of the ammunition companies, I am not measuring pressure with a computer. Theres always another hunt. I do have a gain lands so its not a 100% apples to apples comparison. Note that with these loads, I switch to a standard large rifle primernot a magnum primer. The first number is the value of this cartridge, and the last number is the value of the most powerful round in our bullet database. A forum community dedicated to all firearm owners and enthusiasts. Custom Ammo:Upon request we can provide you with custom loaded ammunition. How do you think it will shoot the Barnes 168 gn LRX in case this new lead ammo ban goes through? Figure 2. 1500ft.lbs: 1270yd Jim Harmer is a host of the Backfire Youtube channel. We have an article on Backfire that goes a bit deeper into long-range hunting cartridges and bullet selection. As you can see from the above table, the 7mm PRC is most similar to the Gunwerks 7 LRM. You want to take full advantage of this cartridges ballistic potential. 5/8 to 1 groups at 500 yards. 2023 Backfire LLC, a limited liability company headquartered in Utah, USA. Had they had a COAL for this cartridge that worked in a short action, then I could see it being a winner. The pistol bullet will slow down much faster, see Figure 2. Very well done. Just like shooting near dawn or dusk, or shooting into a glare. You lose about 25fps per inch of barrel from 24 to 20 inches in using a 7mm PRC depending of course on your powder choice. Testing 160-168 Gr bullets. For this experiment, well look at three common ways to determine effectiveness. Before SAAMI drawings of the 7 PRC were released, I fully expected the 7 PRC to follow the industry-wide trend of overbore hot-rod cartridges. If you throw a big rock, it puts a big hole in the ground, but doesn't go so far. Thank you for your efforts and info on this. Thanks, Jake. The challenge of loading for any of the PRC cartridges is the extremely tight tolerances. The aim ballistically for Hornady with the 7mm PRC, is for a cartridge that will fire a 180gr 7mm bullet at around 2950 to 3000fps. However, hunters who choose to use gear that does not meet this standard are often forced to either make an unethical shot or to pass up shot opportunities when the elk isnt turned the right way. One of those limitations is shooting system portability and that goes hand in hand with recoil and muzzle blast. The 7 PRC has very slightly less case capacity than the 7mm Remington Magnum, but also has a twist rate and neck length capable of shooting much heavier bullets than are common in a 7 Mag. The one disagreement I have is that I think the 7PRC will affect the 28 Nosler sales more than they will the 7RM or 280AI. My scope has seen better days but my Weatherby Accumark is like new and I really like it. About -10+ yards! Im still working on a load. The first is simple to measure and compensate for. Maybe you could do a future video on it? I do think it was shame not to have made the neck 1-2mm longer for reloading. H1000 ran out of space for powder before I reached max velocity. tells us to sight-in this load to shoot 2.37 inches high at 100 yards for a 255 yard zero. The best of us always leave too soon. Given Hornadys target load of 180gr at 2,950fps, this is likely a max load. Here is my info: 3040 FPS, 160 accubond at .531 b/c, 50 degrees and 5000ft. 7 PRC is designed for shorter barrels. Leave nothing to chance, because great things dont happen on accident. I do reload and my rifle seams to like 70 grains. Itll get tons of penetration and you could shoot that light of a bullet VERY fast. burning 61 grains Reloder 22 Recoil: 26.5 ft-lbs at 14.6 fps velocity Muzzle Energy: 3,269 ft-lbs Maximum Pressure: 61,000 psi MPBR: 365 yards (Zero at 307 yards, 3.9" high at 100 yards) These are some impressive numbers. This should get me real close when I go to shoot. Did you supply or install the muzzle device or did you get one from Preferred Barrels? As a competition gun and a capable do all cartridge the 7 PRC absolutely checks just about every box there is I look forward to adding it to my 7mm-08 (for 120-150gr bullets) and 280AI (for 140-175gr bullets) as a capable 7mm magnum that isnt tremendously overbore and specialized for heavier (160gr+ bullets). He has managed multiple gun ranges, and has hunted around the world. Note that BOTH of these are a compressed load, so you couldnt really go much faster than this with H1000. In the past too much attention was placed on increasing MV, but modern long range shooters realize that increasing the BC increases performance without increasing recoil. For this load, I chose the 195 Berger EOL and loaded it to max COAL of 3.34. Every hunter needs to read this and understand the real limitations of their ammunition. Great article! Steve, Jim, Im in the middle of building a 7PRC. ShootersCalculator.com is in the process of being massively overhauled. So, you definitely need a long-range bullet for most longer shots. Also, any chance you could add 270wsm to the tables? No visible pressure signs, but likely overpressure. The 6.5 Creedmoor has long been known to cause damage to the International Space Station with errant shots. We analyzed 6 different loads for each cartridge (the proper way to read that sentence is Jim sat at a computer for WEEKS putting data into very complicated Excel sheets) to come out with an average of what several common loads for each cartridge will accomplish. John B. Thanks again! Perhaps my hunting rifle and bullet combo are capable of shooting 550-yards. You mentioned that length. I quickly saw that the 4 fewer grains of case capacity in the 7 PRC made these powders not ideal. This is averaging several different loads to get these numbers for each cartridge, so we can compare apples-to-apples, but youre right that with ALL cartridges you could go up or down slightly depending on the load selection. Examine the velocity graph generated by Shoot! Use this ballistic calculator in order to calculate the flight path of a bullet given the shooting parameters that meet your conditions. You have stated several times you would not use 6.5 Creedmoor or 6.5 PRC for large game like elk. I have a Vortex Diamondback Tactical on my 6.5 Cre and I have it verified out to 700 Yards which is exactly where you say it is. 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Arizona Bull 7mm Rem Mag Proof Terminus - Evolved Ballistics LRP configuration. Ballistics and Drop for the 7mm Remington Magnum Cartridge Type: Rifle Height: 2.5" Width: 0.532" Average FPS: 3024 Average Energy: 3106 Average Gr: 153 Recoil: 2.06 Power Rank: 4.63 of 20 In the 1960's Remington created the 7mm Remington Magnum based of the 375 H&H cartridge design. Using a 30 Bartlein barrel, Manson reamer, RCC brass, and wanted to do some comparisons to your results. Thats a dead whitetail deer out to 1200 yards lol. Do you have any MV numbers from your 20. As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases. Required fields are marked *. Ive constructed a similar table that takes into account bullet construction, including expansion ratios and weight retention over time, and Id be curious to get your opinion on it. for a 6 inch vital zone (typical of a whitetail deer). Tell them I sent you. it works. Its just another very similar round with no clear huge advantages, maybe only recoil. If you throw a big rock, it puts a big hole in the ground, but doesn't go so far. Thank you. Ive been working with some pre-production brass that isnt very good. Still a cool round for someone first using a .284 round. Im hunting with this cartridge with 145 gr TTSX on red stags till 250 kg untill 300 m: In certain situations we may suggest the use of ballistic turrets and for most scope models we can have custom turrets cut according to your load data. Based on the 7mm PRC data you shared, would you use the 7mm PRC for elk and large North American game? Rifles, Bullets, Barrels & Ballistics . I just hope I gave you a little something to consider. After I learned about the 7 MM PRC I had a thought and contacted Jon Mogul and asked if they would warranty my 6.5 PRC barrel and they did! Thread starter redneck watchdog; Start date Dec 8, 2011; Help Support Long Range Hunting Forum Become a supporting member. Well, that would limit most hunting rifles to between 150 and 400-yards. Depending on bullet type and construction, the minimum expansion velocity for rifles falls between about 1300 and 2000 fps. [emailprotected]. But, I shoot a 195 EOL with a 1:9.5 twist out of a weatherby vanguard 7mm Rem Mag. Thanks! If for a brief fraction of a second everything is lined up and you in that instant know you got it, take the shot. Whidden has the dies for 7 PRC. We can minimize the effects from Magnus and Corriolis for sub 1000 yard shooting by zeroing at a longer range like 800 yardswhile pointing north or south. 7 PRC looks like the best large deer caliber. I think the 280AI is a completely different animal as well. We will also provide a dummy round for you to take measurements if requested. Most people will like 22, but I like em short! Would like to see this compared with the .30-06 and .308. However, why was the 8mm Mauser left out of this comparison? 1000ft.lbs: 1660yd. This load has been optimized in Shoot! Why no newer cartridges? che velocit riesci ad avere? L. B. Id love to see it. I think Hornady just hit another home run with this one. Obviously Hornady makes dies for the 7 PRC, but I personally am not a fan of their dies. They should also understand their own limitations. It is intended for long-range shooting due to its ability to utilize high BC bullets, and is also uniquely suited for hunting large animals such as elk. They use Berger 168 gr VLD (Very Low Drag) bullets. Thankyou for report off the 7mm PRC as I have been searching for since I saw the SAAMI specification. I had to calculate the 100gr at 3500fps. As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases. We carefully monitor the velocity until we see a significant increase (30-60 fps) which usually takes around 40 to 60 rounds. same principal applies to bullets. since Im a fan of your youtubes, my question to you: When I first shot the 7 PRC in a lightweight rifle, I was surprised by the stout recoil; however, adding a muzzle brake or a suppressor tames the rifle dramatically. It seems that the cartridge was designed to compress the load right at the point where youd reach pressure with these common powders. In a trophy hunting situation, it's important to have the equipment and preparation to ensure that you can make the shot at that once-in-a-lifetime trophy, even at 800 yards! There are no bullets below the 0.284 caliber with a ballistic coefficient higher than the 7mm. The three sometimes neglected variables are the human factor, the weather factor, and the fact that you are shooting at a wild animal, not a stationary target. Im a big fan of the 7mm. Now, if we could just shoot a bullet with a BC of 0.800 at a muzzle velocity of 4000 fps, we would have an awesome long range hunting round! The reason that the bullet deflects, is because its initial flight path or direction is different from the wind vector and resulting bullet attitude. Were did you had your rifle made? If you want to max things out, you need a bullet that will expand at lower velocities. Made my own dies. Any suggestions? This difference in bullet shape can be quantified, and the comparison simplified to one numberthe Ballistic Coefficient, or BC. To do load development before this speed up happens will render the load development useless. I keep watching to see everyones long term thoughts and hunting performance. The 7mm Precision Rifle Cartridge is a long-action centerfire rifle cartridge designed to shoot 180 grain bullets at 2,950 fps. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. Exact same setup. Its important to educate yourself about 7mm Rem Mag Ballistics, especially for long range shots, because not knowing how your 7mm rem mag load performs at extended ranges could easily result in a miss. Copyright 2023 ShootersCalculator.comALL rights reserved. 66 grs of H1000 behind a Berger 184 Hybrid produces 3,000 fps. I had them make me a short 20 carbon fiber-wrapped barrel chambered in 7 PRC. Couple questions for you. The first, and most obvious is the effect of gravity. They gave me a 22 inch 7MM barrel blank so thats what I used for my 7 PRC build. I thought for certain it would have more powder capacity than a 7 Mag so Hornady could advertise the new cartridge beating the old standard. If you own a 7mm Rem Mag, its easy to produce 7mm Rem Mag Ballistics reports using Shoot! I want this to be the best ballistic trajectory calculator out there. The bullets BC (ballistic coefficient) is very high at 0.536. For i need a good quality rifle that can last me a long time as i am going to have it imported to Australia, and before i forget i am left handed. If you cant your rifle the same every time, you won't have a problem, but if you change your cant by tipping your scope just five degrees to the right, your point of impact in the standard system would be 16 inches right! If you aimed a barrel perfectly in line with a target 100 yards away with the world's highest B.C. A 10 MPH wind will move a bullet about 10-12 feet laterally. I find your data a bit too limited, which can vary greatly depending on multiple other factors. You should try Vihtavouri N560 powder in your 7 PRC. Thanks for your help!!! I have a Ridgeline now. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. Tikka, Browning, and Bergara are conspicuously missing from the list and yet they all chamber for the 6.5 PRC. Shoot! I converted a Weatherby 6.5 PRC Meateater to the 7 PRC. They use Berger 168 gr VLD (Very Low Drag) bullets. .300 Weatherby Magnum, .300 Remington Short Action Ultra Magnum, .444 Marlin, .327 Federal Magnum, .500-465 Nitro Express, 7mm Winchester Short Magnum (WSM), 6.53mm (.257) Lazzeroni Scramjet, 9.3x74R, .307 Winchester, .375 Weatherby Magnum, .577 Nitro Express 3-Inch, .44 Remington Magnum (Rifle Data), .416 Dakota, 10mm Auto, .375 Winchester. Check out bestofthewest.com or longrangepursuit.com. Also, remember that the data in the table above is using averages of multiple loads per cartridge. This compares favorably to 150 grain and 180 grain .308 bullets which have sectional densities of .226 and .271 respectively. It is on the upper end of what most large adult shooters can comfortably tolerate. Hornady has made the perfect 7mm case. Loris: 50 inch would be uncommonly long. The 7mm RUM is identical to a high performance race engine in every sense. They show how a 7mm with a 168 Berger has more energy down range than a 30-378 weatherby with a Barnes. We need more ethical hunters who wont chance wounding an animal. Hornady ELD-X and Barnes LRX both will expand at 1600 fps. Magnus spin drift will cause a bullet to drift right for a right hand twist barrel, and the amount is proportional to the square of the time of flight. These are Altitude (basically, Pressure), and Air Temperature. While the 7mm 168 grain VLD would only need 3100 fps at the muzzle to match that 2000 fps velocity at 1000 yards. i have a 6.5 prc after reading this page on 7mm prc theres not enough extra hump in this new prc to justify buying one, I have three 7mags but I also have a 300wsm that lays down the gauntlett and beats this prc at everything. Jim, Im wondering why you did not include the Winchester 284, in your comparative with the lineup. I have a complete article on the best rifles available now in 7mm PRC. Surprisingly, the factory ammunition for the 160gr CX bullet offers the same 3,000fps muzzle velocity as the 175gr ELD-X bullet. Graph below shows the energy remaining at 500 yards for the same load: At 500 yards the remaining energy is 1710 Ft-Lbs. Everything was sub 1/2 moa from 59.5 to 62 grains. Thank you for all the proactive information gathering youve done for the community. Commissions are earned for links to Brownell's, Amazon, MidwayUSA, GoHunt, OpticsPlanet, Sportsman's Warehouse, and other retailers. Ill keep pushing my 7RM 180gr at 3050 with 72.2gr Retumbo with brass more available than I could ever want or need. Humidity plays an almost negligible role. Im eager to do some load development. The 7mm, however, seamlessly made the transition to . But with a TBAC 7 ultra on a Fierce CT rival. Skyking; Oct 18, 2010; Replies 10 Views 8K. Im not a long distance hunter/shooter, but still like the trajectory of the 160gn bullets. With the Gunwerks Ballistic Turret dial to 575 yards, he held right on.For long range shooting, there are two very evident factors that affect the bullet's flight. Learn to listen to your gut and understand your abilities. But keep in mind she kicks more than the .308 and is harder on barrels, but is a nice compromise between the 308 and 300 Win Mag. I saw the BIG ballistics spreadsheet on your youtube videos, you should share that. I was somewhat surprised by the list of firearms manufacturers who are not yet jumping on board with the 7 PRC. Policy. Ill keep you posted! Building a rifle with no reloading data and no established manufacturing was a challenge, but now you can easily get a rifle rebarreled for 7 PRC. R . Part of that preparation is understanding, in simple terms, the external ballistics of a typical long range shot. Look up bergerbullets.com. Shooters will gravitate toward heavy-for-caliber high-BC bullets in the 7mm PRC. We will ignore any left/right effect, and focus on the vertical errors. Our reference system will take 1.3 seconds to reach 1000 yards. This streamlined, long 0.284 bullet cuts through the atmosphere with minimal drag effect, thus retaining velocity and energy far downrange (as you can see from the graph). Far shots start to need a lot of compensation for bullet drop and wind drift to make an ethical shot on a game animal. I used the same primer, and the same 175gr ELDX bullet. The highest being the 180 grain 7mm. So please keep letting us know how it works for you. Backfire LLC owns and operates this website. I think all the powders you have tried except H4831SC are too slow. Thats what Im really most curious to know. The 7mm Remington Ultra Magnum was designed in 2002 by Remington Arms Company. Put a Proof barrel on and had an M16 extractor installed and am very excited about this new Ammo. Know you prefer shorter Barrels especially for hunting ), my load for 175. 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